☎️ M&T Bank — 5th Wheel Loan Settlement Script
M&T Bank — 5th Wheel Loan Settlement Script
Loan balance: $46,000 (underwater). Collateral: 2022 Forest River Sabre 37FLL Current status: At repair shop (slide fix this weekend), then $50/mo storage near shop
The Strategy
M&T's regular loan servicing blocked the short sale, but the asset management team handles distressed loans and has settlement authority. They mentioned "price reductions," which means they're open to negotiating a cash settlement for less than the full balance.
The offer: $25,000 cash lump sum at house closing (Oct 4) to settle the $46K loan in full.
Why $25K Works
They look at it like this: - Repo at auction nets them $8-15K minus $3-5K in fees → they get $5-12K - They still have to chase the deficiency ($30K+) through legal - Your offer of $25K is 2-5x better than their best-case repo scenario - No legal costs, no auction, no storage — guaranteed cash, done deal
The Script
Opening:
"Hi, I'm calling about my RV loan (account ending in [XXXX]). I've been working with the asset management team on a resolution. I have a specific cash settlement offer I'd like to discuss."
If they ask for details:
"The unit is a 2022 Forest River Sabre 37FLL. Loan balance is $46,000. The unit is currently at a repair shop getting the slide-out floor repaired and new tires — I'm taking care of the collateral, not walking away."
The offer:
"I have house proceeds coming on October 4th. I want to settle this loan for a lump sum of $25,000 cash at closing. A cashier's check, full release of the lien, no deficiency, no repo. You report the account as Paid in Full. I write the check in 18 days."
If they push back on the amount:
"I understand. But look at it from your side — if I surrender the unit, it goes to auction where you'll net maybe $8-12K after fees. Then you still have to chase the deficiency through legal. My offer gives you $25K guaranteed, zero legal costs, zero auction fees, and it's resolved in three weeks. That's 2-3x more than you'd get from a repo. Can you take this to your supervisor?"
Key questions to ask: 1. "Can you accept a lump sum for less than the full balance and release the lien?" 2. "Will you report the account as Paid in Full or Settled?" (Paid is better for credit) 3. "Do you need a written settlement agreement, or will a cashier's check suffice?" 4. "If we agree, how quickly can you release the lien after payment?"
Backup Options
| If they say... | Respond with... |
|---|---|
| "We need more than $25K" | Ask for the specific number they'd approve. Negotiate up to $28-30K max. |
| "We can't settle, only surrender" | Ask about voluntary surrender terms — will they waive the deficiency? |
| "Let me talk to my supervisor" | Perfect — ask when they'll call back and what info they need in writing |
| "We accept $25K" | Get the written agreement and wire/cashier's check instructions |
Key Diligence Items
- [ ] Get the settlement amount in writing (email is fine)
- [ ] Confirm the interest rate / terms of any deficiency note (if applicable)
- [ ] Is the note recourse? (Can they come after other assets?)
- [ ] Could any forgiven amount be taxable as cancellation-of-debt income?
- [ ] Confirm the lien releases at closing so the consignment dealer can sell the unit
- [ ] Get the repair invoice ready to show them (proves you're maintaining the collateral)
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- liquidation-plan — Master plan